What Miracle Would You Like to See?

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Discussion | Posted on 20-01-2010

Visitors:

I’m asking for your help.

As is noted in the FAQ, we’ve found that attempting to gather prayers for young Mr. Palin has accomplished little beyond gathering a collection of people who hate the Lord.

So, we’ve changed the name of the site to Pray4Healing.com.

This world needs a miracle, folks. Like no time in its history. The economy of nearly every nation is a disaster. Diseases run rampant. People are miserable, and turning from God every day.

Some turn to witchcraft, others to hedonism, still others to cults or the worship of “science”.

Yes, the world needs a miracle.

But it must not be a human-caused “miracle”. For example, “Pray that a million people donate $15 to Haiti relief today.” That’s a measurable and provable event, for sure . . . and a wonderful thing to occur! But it’s not a miracle; it’s people making a conscious, generous, and loving choice.

For God to force people to do such a thing would violate their free will.

The miracle must be something which can turn the hardest-hearted atheist to the Lord, helping bring us as a nation and as a planet back to He who made us.

It has to be something only God can do.

The idea we started out with met those criteria, but it only caused hatred and discontent. We played straight into Satan’s hands, and probably turned more people from the Lord.

Can you suggest something that will bring about a unified prayerful response? Something that even God-mockers will agree is a worthy cause for everyone to support?

Suggest away, we’re all ears!

Announcement: Name Change Complete

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Discussion | Posted on 20-01-2010

Dear Friends:

Earlier today, we experienced a DDoS attack which crashed our server.

We received an email routed through an anonymous IP taking responsibility for it minutes before it occurred.

The vandal informed us that he (she?) was offended by our “vicious attack on Trig Palin”.

We, of course, have no interest in attacking Trig Palin, but in helping him. However, our first and foremost goal is to help people learn about God’s Majesty.

Therefore, we have decided to change the site name to pray4healing.com, effective as soon as the change can be processed. The site may be down for a brief period.

We will ask you, the users, to work together to come up with a specific and measurable goal for which we can all pray to demonstrate God’s awesome power, which will not result in attacks by vicious Internet thugs.

The forum at http://www.prayfortrig.com/forum/ is on a separate domain and will remain up during the website’s brief down-time.

We apologize for any inconvenience.

UPDATE: Had I not prayed before the conversion, I’d have been quite surprised at how smoothly that went. Conversion is complete.

Welcome to Pray4Healing.com! Please have a look at our Frequently Asked Questions!

Atheist 4 Life Asks Questions

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Discussion | Posted on 19-01-2010

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Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

Poster Atheist 4 Life asked a few questions. Here we go:

When you have a moment, could you please pray for a cure for my porn addiction?

Certainly. Shall I pray for you to go blind, for your hands to fall off, or for you to find Jesus and quit your unending heathen lust after pleasures of (your own, mister grabby-hands) flesh?

Also could you explain the existence of dinosaurs millions of years ago when many christians claim that the earth is only a few thousand years old. Also, if you claim that dinosaur fossils are mearly a way of God testing your faith, do you really want to to worship a God that tests your faith by playing such pranks on you?

I’m glad you could spell “atheist” properly, even if “merely” was too much for you.

EDIT: OK, I admit it, that was a cheap shot. I was a bit cranky, having just cleaned up after a DDoS attack. Consider it retracted.

God didn’t play any pranks on us. Dinosaurs were killed in the Flood buried under many layers of sediment in a matter of days and compressed under water deep enough to cover all the mountains of the Earth. That’s MILES of water. Incredible pressure. That’s how they became fossilized.

And why is it that the high church does not come out and condemn looney religious fanatics like Pat Robertson for his obscene comments about Haiti being punished for signing a contract with the devil to remove the French from their country.

High Church? What, the Catholic Cult?

Do you mean the people who worship “Mary” and actually believe that crackers and wine turn into the flesh and blood of Jesus?

Tell me, if Haitians didn’t make a pact with Satan to remove the French from Haiti, why did God allow the earthquake to happen?

I apologize for going off topic here, have nothing personal against Trig but for your Gods sake please concentrate on actually accomplishing something that will really do somebody some good in this world instead of chanting voodoo prayers for someone who really doesn’t need them.

Well, you did ask me to pray for a cure for your porn addiction. Do you think that’s more important than Trig being able to live a normal life, with all the joys and opportunities it offers?

“Free Will” is why God won’t heal Trig?

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Discussion | Posted on 27-07-2009

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Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

One commenter brings up “free will” as the reason God will not heal Trig Palin.

I am the mother of a 14 year old teen who happens to have Down syndrome. I would YES change her Down syndrome if I could, for her sake. [See http://beneaththewings.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-wouldnt-change-her-if-i-could.html for further explanations. Don't skip the comments.]

I also believe that theoretically G-d can “cure” Trig.
But it won’t happen. G-d wants free choice, and if he would cure trig, such a public figure, etc, HE would effectively be limiting our free choice.

I assume that you believe that God must remain hidden. He cannot assert Himself, because then people would believe based on evidence, rather than based on what other people tell them.

Yes?

Tell me, when God sent angels to visit Lot in Sodom, was that remaining hidden, or did He invalidate Lot’s free will?

When God walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, was He remaining hidden, or did He invalidate their free will?

When Jesus performed very public miracles, was He remaining hidden, or did He invalidate the free will of the 5,000 people fed in the miracle of the loaves and fishes, or of witnesses to His other miracles?

When God parted the Red Sea during the Exodus, did that invalidate the free will of the Jews?

This has been posted to the discussion forum, as well.

Amazing Hatred

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Announcements | Posted on 26-07-2009

Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

Folks, I have been shocked and disgusted by the hatred displayed on this website. Most of it, even more surprisingly, has come from just one person.

Most of the comments from IP address 72.227.163.150 (more than 35 in all, from 9 different usernames) have been deleted. The user has been banned from the site. You’ll still find a few, left behind when they were relevant to a conversation and not just supporting the multiple views of Jesus Mocker, Neil, Liz, Kleidy, Fred, and several others (who were all actually the same person).

Such vile behavior makes me ill.

Oh, and Susan? There’s a discussion forum. You don’t have to respond to every single comment made in the first post on the website . . . OK? The threading feature isn’t working, and all that gets us is a confused mash with pages and pages of posts from Susan.

Thank you.

End of Technical Difficulties

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Discussion | Posted on 23-07-2009

Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

Friends -

We have successfully relocated Pray4Trig to a new and stable and God-friendly home! Hurray!

Sorry again for the difficulties in the past few days. Thanks for hanging with us!

Jesus Made a Promise

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Discussion | Posted on 22-07-2009

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Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

Some people have commented that they don’t think God answers prayers. Some think He will only answer prayers if they are for things He already wanted anyway — consistent with His Plan. Still others claim that “He answers all prayers, but sometimes the answer is NO!”

I say that these are all cop-outs. Deep down, these people doubt God’s ability to answer any prayer. They may even doubt that He exists!

Let’s take a look at what Jesus says on the subject!

In Matthew 21: 19-22

19And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.

20And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!

21Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

22And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

Some may say that here, Jesus was speaking exclusively to those in His presence. Not so fast, Doubting Thomases! This story of the fig tree is repeated in Mark 11.

20And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.

21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Emphasis added. “Whosoever”. Not “Whosoever stands before me”, not “whosoever’s name happens to be written on this scroll”, but “whosoever”. Anybody. You, me, Aunt Carrie. Whosoever.

Now, you may be wondering to yourself, “Shirlee, if you genuinely believe that Jesus will do what you pray for, why aren’t you simply praying yourself? Why isn’t it done yet?”

Jesus added in Matthew 18 a condition:

19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

That’s right, Jesus wants more than one person agreeing in prayer. That’s why churches have their entire congregations pray when a member is ill, you see.

If Jesus didn’t want people to pray together for things, then a pastor could do it all by himself!

So, we see that Jesus made us a solid promise: He will do what we ask, if multiple people pray for the same thing with belief that they will receive it.

Nowhere does Jesus say, “I will do whatever you ask, as long as you ask for things that I’ve already decided I want. Oh, and I’m not going to tell you my Plan, you’ll just have to guess.”

Nowhere does Jesus say, “I will do whatever you ask, if I think it’s best for you. If I don’t, then I won’t.”

Nowhere does Jesus say, “I will only answer some prayers of the faithful, not all.”

The three arguments presented at the beginning of this post directly contradict the Bible, and are therefore not valid views of God and prayer.

If you believe any of these things, why not at least admit the reason . . . that you doubt God is who He says He is? Why blaspheme His name with these comments?

A Poll!

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Announcements | Posted on 21-07-2009

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Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

I’ve set up a poll on the discussion forum, asking whether you will pray for Trig on April 18, and why.

It’s at THIS LINK.

Commenting will work much better there, although you do have to register to post.

As promised, a discussion forum

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Announcements | Posted on 20-07-2009

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Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

I apologize for the commenting difficulties. I see that there is much to say.

If you noticed the outage (about half an hour) earlier this evening, that was my attempt to set up a discussion forum. Something clashed, and crashed the site.

I’ve set it up under a different domain. It’s at www.prayfortrig.com/forum.

Note: pray FOR trig, not pray 4 trig. They are different domain names. I hope to have everything resolved within the next few days.

I haven’t done a thing with it, in terms of aesthetics. I’ll do that soon, promise!

Spread the Word – Pray4Trig Bumper Sticker!

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Announcements | Posted on 19-07-2009

Dear Latecomers:

Please click through to our Frequently Asked Questions page to understand our new focus, then join us in our efforts to help God-mocker PZ Myers see the Light of Jesus!

We’ll be replacing the old Pray4Trig sticker with something to help you get the word out that we’re praying for PZ Myers soon!

Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

We’ve released our first bumper sticker to help promote the Day of Prayer!

It’s pretty basic, in black and white. If someone wants to offer a better design, we’d be happy to use it instead. (Sorry, no graphic designers on board yet.)

The first Pray4Trig bumper sticker!

Pray4Trig Bumper Sticker!

It’s available here.