Proposed Miracles So Far

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Discussion | Posted on 20-01-2010

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These are the commenter-proposed “miracles” so far. Do any stand out? Do you have a better idea? Please share your suggestions!

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First, WK restated our goals and criteria beautifully. Let’s review:

I think a miraculous display might be best, like god preventing the sun from setting for one night such as he did in joshua 10, but I understand how people can equate praying for a spectacle like that, to satan tempting jesus in matthew 4:1-11, and besides, he stopped doing those types of flashy miracles like a band that wants to forget they ever wrote their one hit song, so I doubt that a bunch of people requesting it will make him do it.

I also understand that you probably want to heal a public figure; someone reasonably well known to the average person.

First off, we should agree to exclude from our consideration anyone with an illness that although it rarely happens, can go away on its own, like cancer or leukemia.

Secondly, we should agree on what would constitute a miracle. If say, a person in a vegetative state with irreparable brain damage makes what appears to be deliberate actions, that’s not a miracle. A true miracle of course would be if the person permanently regained full consciousness without any cognitive problems, but I, and many others would accept at the very least, the subject being able to correctly answer 40 very simple yes/no questions by voice, squeezing, blinking, groaning, any sort of signal, given by an objective observer such as a doctor or nurse, with video evidence.

I’d like to add that the subject of the prayer should be willing to be prayed for, if the subject is an individual.

And now, the suggestions!
ds mama offers an idea:

What about the miracle of having each baby/child in every NICU/PICU across the country be perfectly healed of whatever illness or trauma they are suffering on the day of prayer?

It’s a wonderful idea, dsmama, and very compassionate. One problem: There is no single point/person for people to focus upon. It’s far too general and vague, and doesn’t involve someone people “know of”.

Harry Wortz (hopefully, not his real name . . .) suggests:

I pray that America wakes up before, Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Jackson, Sharpton and Maddow turn our once great country into a true Idiocracy.

Interesting selection of lefties and righties. How would the “waking up” be measured and proven to be the work of God? (I agree that it would be a miracle!)

Matt Stafford, a Detroit Lions fan, says:

I’d like God to give me an offensive line. That’d be a miracle.

Indeed it would. But couldn’t nonbelievers dismiss that as the work of a skilled drafting of players or a better coach?

Greg Laden provides a truly tempting idea:

I would like to pray that PZ Myers, the Internet Atheist, becomes a True Believing Christian. Will everyone join me in this prayer?

I honestly love this idea. Imagine the good it would do the world if such an outspoken atheist came to Jesus! But how would we know his conversion was sincere?

Can someone suggest a way to figure that out?

Rich Wilson presents some logic on that subject:

So either the atheist is converted, and can’t lie about it, or the atheist is not converted, in which case lying and saying they were converted would serve no purpose.

Trouble is, lying and saying he was converted would serve the purpose of making God look foolish. God does not like to be made to look foolish; that’s why many countries have blasphemy laws, to protect Him from such things.

WK had a number of suggestions:

Professor Stephen Hawkings: Yes, he is an unbeliever, so he has that going against him, but he has an irreversible degenerative disease, and if cured he himself being an intelligent rational person would have to recognize the existence of an intercessory god. What better way for god to convert the scientifically minded than to heal one of their own? Proof of a miracle would be significant reversal of degeneration like renewed access of body functions, or being able to speak, not just a decrease in degeneration.

David Ring: He’s not exactly a celebrity but mister Ring is a christian preacher with cerebral palsy. If god would heal a very devout christian man of CP, it would surely convince many. Proof of miracle would be if his speech and motor skills improved to at least the average range.

Michael J Fox: He has been seen by many christians as an enemy of god for rallying for stem cell research, but if he was cured of Parkinson’s, he’d have to accept the belief that stem cell research is toying with the work of god. Proof of miracle would be a reversal in degeneration and occurrence of tremors.

Muhammad Ali: Healing a famous muslim might send out a message that allah is a false god, but others may get the idea that allah is indeed the same as god. It may [not] help christian islam relations a great deal, or convert many muslims but either way, it would convince those who don’t believe in god whatsoever. Proof of miracle would be the same as for Michael J Fox.

Random Atheist:

I would like to see God heal amputees.

Got one in mind?

Jim says:

I would love to [see] Charles Krauthammer healed. For Jesus to heal a man like him and let him walk would help this world in so many ways. Perhaps it is selfish of me to want this, but maybe then he would accept Jesus and also do more of his good work.

Erik suggests:

If god exists have him strike me down with lightning.

Suggesting this could be seen as inciting to violence, Erik. I don’t think I can do that legally.

Grimmlock's God Detector

Finally, Grimmlock suggests:

pray that God moves my “Yo! God” God detector.

Now, that’s just being silly.

Got any favorites? Better ideas? Let’s hear them!

Did I miss any? Point them out!

Welcome!

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Posted by Shirlee | Posted in Announcements | Posted on 17-07-2009

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Dear Latecomers:

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Thanks!

-Blessing
February 2010

Trig Palin has been in the news a lot lately . . . being attacked for something beyond his control.  Liberals and people who hate God have derided him for being “a retard”, because he has Down Syndrome. 

The little guy has to tolerate so much from those who would mock his mother

I’m sure I’m not the only one sick of the constant abuse. A few friends and I were talking about how this special little boy is abused in the media and the blogosphere, and we decided to do something concrete about it!

On Trig’s next birthday (April 18, 2010), there will be a Worldwide Day of Prayer! Congregations across the globe will join in asking God to make Trig whole. If such a documented miracle doesn’t demonstrate God’s Majesty to the masses, I don’t know what will!

Join us and congregations worldwide on April 18, 2010 in praying to the Lord that He will manifest His unlimited power and glory by healing Trig Palin of his affliction!

We’ve just gotten this site started, but you can already register your self or your congregation to commit to participating. Click the “Register Your Support” link in the sidebar to show your support. If you’re shy, you can comment below instead.

Click HERE if you don’t the comments at the bottom of this post.

Note: The nested comments have not given enough space for discussion. I have set up a discussion forum at http://www.prayfortrig.com/forum/. Note that the domain is prayfortrig, not pray4trig. I had some technical difficulties, which I hope to sort out shortly, and needed to register a second domain to make things work right. (Sorry, I’m not an expert webmistress yet.)

Note: I’ve disabled comments on this post. The inability to thread properly on this post has made it impossible to follow any manner of conversation, and the remainder of the site and the discussion forum are being neglected while people post merely to hear themselves speak . . . In particular, one now-banned user who had more than 10 usernames and posted nothing but vitriol.